This is gone far enough.....thanks Jim L....making comments like "Stop the Spin" and "you'll get more business" aren't called for when you ask simple questions such as can I launch here or there, etc....Yes, I am the eyes and ears for a lot of people, and I am 100% when I give answers...I watch people everyday have difficulty launching boats even at good ramps, so I am not sure what that should imply. Next time I'll be more into detail that just blowing you off.