LOL.... WOWWWWWW to that discussion!!! haha... a guy has to bring a Websters Dictionary to the fishing boards now a days to understand everything!! Two thumbs up to you though Chipguide, I agree with you... although I WOULD like to be able to have the trolling motor down while soaking suckers in the fall... (I would ALSO love to watch someone troll through pass 2 haha)