I was on the river two Sat. ago (Nov 14, bright sun) and my 12 year old daughter and I had a great trip with numbers of fish similar to what you describe Red. Fewer walleyes and more trout as we were targetting trout. I think the "magic" water temp has been finally reached from the ouflow and unless other factors enter in like really nasty weather as coming after Thanksgiving, fishing should be on the upside for awhile. Water temps are still in the low 50's which is kind of crazy for this time of year if you ask me. At this rate, the 40's will last well into late December. According to the resident meteorologist at my school, look for a big time nasty weather change some time in December/Early January with very cold temps and serious snow. With Lake Erie as warm as it is, lake effect might be insane in December. Red, I imagine you've been using stick baits. Large spinnners (#5 mepps long blade) that I make have been my ticket for the two trips I've been lucky to take.

ppalko