Thanks for the advice dave! those depths were spot on. went out and spent a day on LVD and a day on forest lake and fishing was good. all walleyes were caught 18in to 3ft off the bottom in about 14-15 fow. the blue gill bite on forest was great! not a lot of sorting, most were keepers in the 7-9in range. there were also some perch caught in the 10-12in range holding tight to the bottom.