Thank for the quick reply, we still have suckers down here in Madison, so I will bring them with me. Funny I have done the ice thing with my lure only as a joke, but I will give it a try. It makes sense, I found that on the rivers the more edges I can put together on any given cast or presentation the more action I get. Sometimes they are not as clear as rock point eddy plus current. I have found the low water to be blessing and a curse. The big girls seem to hold pretty close to the holes and I was able to stay on them all year. I am after one that got away 2 days in a row, we never put a hook in her but got a couple of really good looks.

Thanks again and we'll see ya at the shows. Looking forward to seeing some of your new baits. Black on black was good for us this summer/fall