I forgot to mention that Simms doesn't make bibs, which totally blows. Most of what they make is marketed toward flyfishermen, and they assume that they're wearing waders. No musky fisherman I know wears waders, except one, so it really sucks that Simms doesn't make bibs. So, my previous reply only keeps your top half dry and warm. For the bottom half I wear Cabela's Guidewear bibs. So far so good, but I only have one season on them so far. Also try the Gander Tech H2O, as in the previous post.