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  1. #1
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    I got this email earlier this morning from Shawn Hirst (IDNR District 21 Fisheries Biologist)

    -----" Thanks for the email and the picture. Without actually seeing the fish (or a photo of the fish out of the water) it would be hard to determine if the fish being observed is a baby muskie. Most of the muskie stocked from the hatchery are 10 plus inches at stocking although a few may be 1-2 inches smaller. However, these stockings typically occur in July/August and these fish should obviously be bigger late in the fall. The fish in the attached photo could posibly be a grass pickerel which have the same body shape as a muskie but are usually less than 10 inches. These fish have a small "tear drop" marking below the eye and the dorsal fin seems to be more pointed than on a muskie. I've attached a picture of a grass pickerel showing the facial "tear drop" which I sort of see on Mr. Zuko's picture. I would be extremely interested in seeing an out of water color picture in the future if possibly. Please remember that it is illegal to possess a muskie less than 48 inches so you would want to take the picture immediately after you capture the fish and then release the fish afterwards. Thanks again for the interest and email. have a great holiday season. "-----


    I have attached the picture he sent me in the email.

    Any thougths on this one?

    Last edited by K4Muskies; 12-02-2008 at 03:40 PM.
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  2. #2
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    Cool The Next Logical Question

    Mr. IDNR.
    The next logical question into the puzzle is... If it could be a grass pickerel... Do grass pickerel inhabit lake Kinkaid? The picture looks pretty compelling to me.

    Cheers,
    John

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    I have hooked some good size grass pickerel on Little Grassy over the years, but never got one on Kinkaid. I would tend to say yes grass pickerel are in the creeks flowing into Kinkaid which means they could be in the shallows on Kinkaid. I have caught log perch and other small stream fish by Sharp Rock, Levan, and other small creeks, so you just never know what that pic really is. Pretty clear pic for Kinkaid, but if that is what you say I believe you. Natural reporduction is not out of the question for Lake Kinkaid since we have a natural muskie strain going through the motions every Spring. If we had a slow warm up lasting over several weeks instead of a peak in high temps very quickly, we might see the RARE occasion of a fingerling making it to the size in you picture.

    These are just my opinions
    Scott

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    Default vertical stripping

    there appears to be vertical marking on the 4 inch that i dont see on the grass pike pic

  5. #5
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    Default Untill the next time we meet again

    I will be shore fishing on Lake Kinkaid next Saturday, and I know that my chances of seeng the fish like that one are 1 in a bilion but if I do I'll make sure I get a batter angle on the fish or even better try to capture the fish to take out of water photos, and of course relising the fish back.

    But I will be fishing not searching for something that I probibly will never see again....

    untill then I belive that the fish I have seen is a succesful hatchling, despite what the IDNR biologists had to say on this.
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