Thanks for those tips, sounds like were pretty much on the same page as far as location. I just ordered 2 8 and a half foot bobber rods. Will have to order up some of those hooks. I went out on sunday and couldn't get away from the pike. Landed 2 nice walleye with hooks I had bent a little myself and only lost one fish that day. West wind at 10 mph was exactly the conditions when it was a heyday ( if we kept em hooked haha). We have been casting the shoreline after dark with crankbaits on the way back to the launch and have been unproductive doing that. Fuel pump went out on the outboard on sunday so that may have been my last trip of the year.