Thanks for all the tips Weedlinerunner! Yes we go unguided now, not that the guys aren't great - we simply feel comfortable now after having used guides for the first few years. But only being there once a year means limited opportunities to learn the submerged rocks - so will plan to be extra careful, thanks! The weather forecast looks okay, a bit more wind than I'd like a couple of days, so we'll see how it all turns out. I'll be sure to give you an update, plan to bring the laptop with us so might even be able to post while in camp! Very much appreciate your posts, maybe we will be in camp at the same time some year! Can't wait to see how big the pet Northern's are now!! Cheers!