Gerard, bright green/chartreuese in clear water Lake St. Claire was better for us in July. Yesterday afternoon and early evening a gold DCG yielded me nothing on Monona but sure looked pretty to me. My boat partner had a nice followup on a surface bait just after sunset and that was the best action we had 4-9 PM. If my response to your message on this thread shows that I am a junior member, please let me know how to change that to regular member since I am 60 y.o. Greg Voss