By now the perch have gone into the reeds and the big guys always follow. Now last year that didn't happen until after mid August. If you have something like a boogerman or weedless plastic toss that in during lower light and you ought to get hit by something. Do that fig 8 as the muskies here will follow right up to the boat from the reeds. I find that if you have rocks and reeds together that's an unbeatable combo.