no tom. its the economy way down. our turnout for most of our outings have been down. heck at the iron man there were a ton of guys who fished it and didnt show up to pay and just the costs of running the club is usual costs. but all we are doing right now goes back to stocking the fish, what its meant for, and we ordered the fish and the funds went low on us. and we dont want to go a year without stocking fish. we have stuck alot in there for the last few years and want to keep it going. there are alot to do with it also tom. like our guide for a day. we usually have 15 or so boats.. not this year. the spring we had 8 boats and not all had 2 clients and we only have 3 clients for the october 3rd date.. so that hurts right there. plus frt wayne didnt have the show this year and we do good there.. i have sent out a ton of gfad fliers to past clients and thats how we got 2 for the fall date.. so i dont know what else to tell you ......bill